[linux-dvb] Pinnacle pctv 300i - DVB is ok in france !

[Cabrito Estrabico]

Hi,

leaving in france, I recently managed to get my pinnacle pctv 310i card
running
in both analogic and numeric mode by shifting forward by 167 kHz each
channel
frequency in the tuning data file for dvb.

I would like to report here that using the same method I coud help a
french ubuntu user
on the french ubuntu forum to make his pctv 300i card dvb running.

So, pctv 300i is working in dvb mode in france by shifting forward by
167 kHz each channel
frequency in the tuning data file.

Unluckily we could not make this card running in analogic mode. The tv
norm in france is secam
and in v4l-dvb cards list this card appears like : Pinnacle PCTV 300i
DVB-T + PAL.

Does its tuner support SECAM norm ?
Does issue existing for french user ?

Thanks.

Cabrito

[hermann pitton]

Hi Cabrito,

Post by Cabrito Estrabico
Hi,
leaving in france, I recently managed to get my pinnacle pctv 310i card
running

hmm, 300i and 310i are very different cards.

Post by Cabrito Estrabico
in both analogic and numeric mode by shifting forward by 167 kHz each
channel
frequency in the tuning data file for dvb.
I would like to report here that using the same method I coud help a
french ubuntu user
on the french ubuntu forum to make his pctv 300i card dvb running.
So, pctv 300i is working in dvb mode in france by shifting forward by
167 kHz each channel
frequency in the tuning data file.
Unluckily we could not make this card running in analogic mode. The tv
norm in france is secam
and in v4l-dvb cards list this card appears like : Pinnacle PCTV 300i
DVB-T + PAL.
Does its tuner support SECAM norm ?
Does issue existing for french user ?

Yes, there is another pitfall for french users.
You need option secam=l for the tuner module.

Only the recent mercurial with Hartmut's latest audio fixes allows to
select SECAM-L directly from an app like xawtv.

Only in case it is a 310i with saa7131e, option audio_ddep=10 for
saa7134 might help as well to force NICAM stereo, but isn't the best
choice if you have also MONO analog broadcast.

Good Luck,
Hermann

[Hartmut Hackmann]

Hi, all

Post by hermann pitton
Hi Cabrito,

Post by Cabrito Estrabico
Hi,
leaving in france, I recently managed to get my pinnacle pctv 310i card
running

hmm, 300i and 310i are very different cards.

Post by Cabrito Estrabico
in both analogic and numeric mode by shifting forward by 167 kHz each
channel
frequency in the tuning data file for dvb.
I would like to report here that using the same method I coud help a
french ubuntu user
on the french ubuntu forum to make his pctv 300i card dvb running.
So, pctv 300i is working in dvb mode in france by shifting forward by
167 kHz each channel
frequency in the tuning data file.
Unluckily we could not make this card running in analogic mode. The tv
norm in france is secam
and in v4l-dvb cards list this card appears like : Pinnacle PCTV 300i
DVB-T + PAL.
Does its tuner support SECAM norm ?
Does issue existing for french user ?

Yes, there is another pitfall for french users.
You need option secam=l for the tuner module.
Only the recent mercurial with Hartmut's latest audio fixes allows to
select SECAM-L directly from an app like xawtv.
Only in case it is a 310i with saa7131e, option audio_ddep=10 for
saa7134 might help as well to force NICAM stereo, but isn't the best
choice if you have also MONO analog broadcast.
Good Luck,
Hermann

Do we really talk about the 300i?
As Hermann mentioned, this card is very different from the 310i.
I was on the opiniton that the channel decoder of this card would find
the 167kHz offset automatically...
I am not sure whether the option secam=l will help. This depends on the
so-called SAW filter on the card. But it is worth a try and if it works,
please leave us a note.
Just one additional note: If you use the recent code from the repository,
you should apply the secam=l option to the saa7134.ko module.

Best regards
Hartmut

[Cabrito Estrabico]

Post by Hartmut Hackmann
Hi, all

Post by hermann pitton
Hi Cabrito,

Post by Cabrito Estrabico
Hi,
leaving in france, I recently managed to get my pinnacle pctv 310i
card running

hmm, 300i and 310i are very different cards.

Post by Cabrito Estrabico
in both analogic and numeric mode by shifting forward by 167 kHz
each channel
frequency in the tuning data file for dvb.
I would like to report here that using the same method I coud help
a french ubuntu user
on the french ubuntu forum to make his pctv 300i card dvb running.
So, pctv 300i is working in dvb mode in france by shifting forward
by 167 kHz each channel
frequency in the tuning data file.
Unluckily we could not make this card running in analogic mode. The
tv norm in france is secam
and in v4l-dvb cards list this card appears like : Pinnacle PCTV
300i DVB-T + PAL.
Does its tuner support SECAM norm ?
Does issue existing for french user ?

Yes, there is another pitfall for french users.
You need option secam=l for the tuner module.
Only the recent mercurial with Hartmut's latest audio fixes allows to
select SECAM-L directly from an app like xawtv.
Only in case it is a 310i with saa7131e, option audio_ddep=10 for
saa7134 might help as well to force NICAM stereo, but isn't the best
choice if you have also MONO analog broadcast.
Good Luck,
Hermann

Do we really talk about the 300i?
As Hermann mentioned, this card is very different from the 310i.
I was on the opiniton that the channel decoder of this card would find
the 167kHz offset automatically...
I am not sure whether the option secam=l will help. This depends on the
so-called SAW filter on the card. But it is worth a try and if it works,
please leave us a note.
Just one additional note: If you use the recent code from the repository,
you should apply the secam=l option to the saa7134.ko module.
Best regards
Hartmut

Hello,

obviously my previous message is not clear , so I try to brighten it.
There is two points :

* the first explain that i managed to run dvb with the « 310i »
thanks to last v4l-dvb codes and thanks to a 167kHz offset in
the frequencies of the dvb data file.

* the second and main point is about the « 300i ». I have give an
help to several ubuntu users on the french ubuntu forum to make
their card running with recent code from the repository. The same
167 kHz offset is required in the dvb data file to have sucess
with dvb ; no dvb channel is found without this offset. About
analogic, even by using the secam=l option for saa7134.ko module
they don't manage to get secam analogic tv.

Do you think pctv 300i could support secam analogic mode ?

Thank you all.
Cabrito

[hermann pitton]

Post by Cabrito Estrabico

Post by Hartmut Hackmann
Hi, all

Post by hermann pitton
Hi Cabrito,

Post by Cabrito Estrabico
Hi,
leaving in france, I recently managed to get my pinnacle pctv 310i
card running

hmm, 300i and 310i are very different cards.

Post by Cabrito Estrabico
in both analogic and numeric mode by shifting forward by 167 kHz
each channel
frequency in the tuning data file for dvb.
I would like to report here that using the same method I coud help
a french ubuntu user
on the french ubuntu forum to make his pctv 300i card dvb running.
So, pctv 300i is working in dvb mode in france by shifting forward
by 167 kHz each channel
frequency in the tuning data file.
Unluckily we could not make this card running in analogic mode. The
tv norm in france is secam
and in v4l-dvb cards list this card appears like : Pinnacle PCTV
300i DVB-T + PAL.
Does its tuner support SECAM norm ?
Does issue existing for french user ?

Yes, there is another pitfall for french users.
You need option secam=l for the tuner module.
Only the recent mercurial with Hartmut's latest audio fixes allows to
select SECAM-L directly from an app like xawtv.
Only in case it is a 310i with saa7131e, option audio_ddep=10 for
saa7134 might help as well to force NICAM stereo, but isn't the best
choice if you have also MONO analog broadcast.
Good Luck,
Hermann

Do we really talk about the 300i?
As Hermann mentioned, this card is very different from the 310i.
I was on the opiniton that the channel decoder of this card would find
the 167kHz offset automatically...
I am not sure whether the option secam=l will help. This depends on the
so-called SAW filter on the card. But it is worth a try and if it works,
please leave us a note.
Just one additional note: If you use the recent code from the repository,
you should apply the secam=l option to the saa7134.ko module.
Best regards
Hartmut

Hello,
obviously my previous message is not clear , so I try to brighten it.
* the first explain that i managed to run dvb with the « 310i »
thanks to last v4l-dvb codes and thanks to a 167kHz offset in
the frequencies of the dvb data file.
* the second and main point is about the « 300i ». I have give an
help to several ubuntu users on the french ubuntu forum to make
their card running with recent code from the repository. The same
167 kHz offset is required in the dvb data file to have sucess
with dvb ; no dvb channel is found without this offset. About
analogic, even by using the secam=l option for saa7134.ko module
they don't manage to get secam analogic tv.
Do you think pctv 300i could support secam analogic mode ?

Hi!

Thanks, this is clear now.

The 300i should be able to do analog SECAM-L,
but I guess it won't happen within one day and there is no reliable
detection of sub-tuner types on the saa7134 driver.

It hits in the middle of some likely still unknown,
but is not restricted to video _and_ audio SAW filters.

As far I remember, the audio carrier is minus 40db to the video carrier
on SEACAM-L. Doesn't tolerate any wrong settings and drives the chips to
their limits.

The SAW filters are outside the tuner housing on mt2050 types and there
are tables ...

In this case "works on windows" or 2.6.12 compared to recent is
accepted ;)

Cheers,
Hermann